It's 30 minutes of WWDC 2015 speculation with redcert host Andy O'Donoghue and Tapadoo & Ull Conference founder, Dermot Daly before he boards the plane for the Moscone. Among other topics: iOS9, AppleTV 4, Apple TV Streaming, Craig Federighi's script and Developers and HomeKit. And Andy heard someone's making home-security cameras for Apple to launch by year end - so is Apple going to put more hardware in the home, with AppleTV as the HomeKit hub, or is a phone just fine? He's convinced but Dermot, well he always looks sort of curiously sympathetic at him.