With Stuart Dredge currently away “flaunting his curves” on the beaches of northern Scotland, we have a special guest in the Music Ally podcast. David Manders, who manages Public Service Broadcasting and runs their record company (Test Card Recordings), joins us to chat about running a small label as a cottage industry, the minefield of sample clearance, why the band are a great showcase for the BFI’s archive, being financially nimble, why streaming is opening up new audiences and actually helping sell physical product and, finally, the powerful draw of live.