Listen to the full show podcast with Nick Bennett and Trevor Long: Jackie Coates: The Head of the Telstra Foundation, Jackie Coates, joined Nick Bennett and Trevor Long to talk about tips around giving our kids smartphones this Christmas. Professor Michael Milford: Professor Milford is from the Queensland University of Technology and is also a Chief Investigator at the Australian Centre for Robotic Vision. He joined Nick Bennett and Trevor Long for a chat about whether robots can improvise and what that would mean in the future.