In May, at HackNYC 2018 in New York City, Dr. Bill Curtis' team of Tracie Gerardi and Lev Lesokhin will deliver a presentation on putting an end to "Technical Debt". I spoke with Dr. Curtis about his work in the creation of various maturity models, the current state of security in software development and "what keeps him up at night". You might be surprised at his answer. Listen in... About Dr. Bill Curtis Dr. Bill Curtis (1948) is an American software and organizational scientist. He is best known for leading the development of the Capability Maturity Model [1] (CMM for Software) and the People CMM [2] in the Software Engineering Institute at Carnegie Mellon University. He co-founded TeraQuest, a provider of CMM-based services, which was sold to Borland Software Corporation in 2005. He has published 5 books, over 150 articles, and in 2007 was elected a Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers for his career contributions to software process improvement and measurement.