Loyal Rue, professor emeritus of Luther College in Decorah Iowa, published his fifth book in 2011 titled, Nature Is Enough: Religious Naturalism and the Meaning of Life. In August 2014, Connie Barlow and Michael Dowd conversed with Loyal about this book, which is a good introduction to our shared understandings and differences in the realm of religious naturalism. View the interview in VIDEO format on youtube: Loyal Rue pt 4A: "Nature Is Enough" (w Barlow and Dowd) Theme song "Poetry of Reality" courtesy Symphony of Science.