In this episode, I chat with Stuart Fishbeck, owner of Consectra Enterprises, a security training firm in Colorado. Stuart noticed that there were a multitude of firearms trainers in his area, but nobody offering instruction in de-escalation, conflict management and non-violent control. These techniques are vital for security personnel - particularly volunteer security personnel, such as those in houses of worship - so Stu developed a unique and comprehensive curriculum that he has been using with great success. Topics Discussed • Gaps in the typical training of security personnel • Importance of learning from people who have lived with violence (e.g. Marc MacYoung) • "Verbal Judo" and de-escalation techniques • Importance of maintaining awareness to avoid danger • Training church volunteers to be welcoming while guarding against violence • Liability associated with armed volunteers • How Stuart trains church security volunteers • Martial arts and the Tactical "Y" • Why de-escalation and non-lethal force is important for individuals, as well as institutional security