In May 2016, I interviewed Bethann Garramon Merkle and Jerod Merkle, and asked them about their experiences on their first trip to East Africa. While the focus of this podcast is Bethann's research into the "ecologically true" story of the tortoise and the hare, we also discuss vehicle mishaps, animal sightings, and what it's like to live in the bush. Check out more of Bethann's work at commnatural.com, or follow her on twitter.com/commnatural. You can learn more about Jared's work by following his research at jamerkleresearch.wordpress.com, and by reading his publications on ResearchGate. This podcast's featured songs are "The Mighty Rio Grande" by This Will Destroy You, and "Ryderz" by Hudson Mohawke. Links at the bottom of this description will lead to the iTunes page for each artist. Please follow our operation on twitter.com/savannaecology, or like our Facebook page fb.com/UFinKenya, both of which will also include updates and blog posts from our University of Florida undergraduates and from other researchers at Mpala Research Centre. https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/this-will-destroy-you/id156895409 https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/hudson-mohawke/id251161309