"I do think actually that one of the positive outcomes from COVID-19 will be that people will perhaps realise that the human element, the natural element, has a probably more significant role to play in society than technology. Technology should only ever be a tool. And I do wonder what the world will be like post-COVID-19." In this week's podcast, ISF Managing Director Steve Durbin and ISF Podcast host Tavia Gilbert have an open, wide-ranging conversation about the current global crisis, from the alarming to the hopeful. They discuss the increased threat of cyber attackers, privacy concerns with telemedicine and other home-working apps, whether technology is moving closer to a brave new world, and what we can learn from this moment in history.