Amid a precarious world where old jobs are disappearing and new ones are emerging, the idea of lifelong learning has morphed into something more of a must rather than an intellectual hobby or pursuit. But how will lifelong learning advantage Australians and which industries will most benefit from it? To discuss these issues and other topical points, I spoke to Australia and NZ regional director of D2L, Tony Maguire. According to Maguire, young Australians will embark on five to six careers throughout their lives, making lifelong learning critical. Linked to that is the rise of microcredentials, which have taken off in recent times, especially with government support. But while the A/NZ regional director of D2L thinks they are a great concept, he also believes that more of a framework to support them needs to be developed, so that employers and institutions can classify their true value. To conclude the interview, Maguire explained the block model Victoria University rolled out, and the successes that resulted from that decision. The concept of teaching-only universities was also explored, with Maguire stating that "the elephant in the room" is still the fact that research impact still heavily drives institutional reputation. In saying that, he emphasised that student experience will be key in encouraging more domestic students to enrol in universities and training centres across the country.