Katie Stone joins me to talk about Francis Ford Coppola's horny Dracula adaptation, the original Bram Stoker novel and how the figure of the vampire can be rethought to connect to utopian ideas around work, idleness, care and more. You can find the talk Katie mentions in the episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiPseSrT0p0 And my Kickstarter project here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/objectoriented/object-oriented Utopian Horizons is a podcast about utopia. Each episode covers a different utopia, dystopia, utopian thinker, or utopian movement, asking what they can tell us about ourselves, our society, and our future. Twitter: https://twitter.com/utopianhorizons email: utopianhorizonspod [at] gmail dot com Support the podcast: https://www.patreon.com/utopianhorizons Music: The Fiction of Utopian Studies/The Road To Oceania by The Fucked Up Beat.