First we do the shooting, then we do the talking. Shoot First Talk Later combines a super cool photoshoot, shot by host, Robert and a podcast chat. Kellie chats about the differences between UK and US trans movement, growing up shy and having to live a triple life once she began managing Lennox Lewis. Kellie also talks about how Scientology threatened to take over her life, entering therapy to deal with her secret gender issues, coming out to her family, how Big Brother changed her life and her experiences of dating as trans woman. Head to www.sftl.photos to check out Kellie's portraits, photographed by Robert. Follow Shoot First Talk Later on instagram and twitter @shoottalkphotos. Subscribe to the podcast to stay up to date with all episodes. We'll shoot you later.