Taking a broader view of personality that includes more abstract layers of selfhood means navigating a more complex perspective on development. In this conversation with writer and futurist Zak Stein we explore the challenge of our time in metabolizing tragedy and complexity, the post-tragic and post-traumatic growth, the difference between ensoulment and transcendence growth, and three streams of personal development and how they can impact a coaching approach. Zachary Stein Ed.D is a writer, educator and futurist whose work focuses on social justice and education through the lenses of developmental psychology and integral metatheories. During his studies he co-founded a research oriented non-profit - Lectica - that studies reforming large-scale standardized testing. Zak has published in a wide range of outlets and his most recent book is entitled “Education in a Time Between Worlds”. He is the Academic Director of the activist think-tank at the Center for Integral Wisdom, as well as Core Faculty at Meridian University. Visit coachesrising.com to see our acclaimed online coach trainings and other offerings.