David Robinson founded Upturn, a tech-policy consultancy that focuses on civil rights and social justice. In this episode he talks about getting Google to ban predatory "payday loan" advertisements and how he came to focus on public interest work at the intersection of law and technology. Music: "Fate" and "Sometimes Thing's Don't Go As Planned" by Marquice Turner on Soft Dreams, available at the FMA http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Marquice_Turner/Soft_Dreams/