Future Histories   /     S03E04 - Tim Platenkamp on Republican Socialism, General Planning and Parametric Control

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Tim Platenkamp fuses the socialist calculation debate with republican thought. Future Histories International Find all English episodes of Future Histories here: https://futurehistories-international.com/ and subscribe to the Future Histories International RSS-Feed   Shownotes Tim Platenkamp Tim Platenkamp (Website): https://timplatenkamp.nl/ Platenkamp, Tim. The Constitution of Socialism. Forthcoming: https://timplatenkamp.nl/research-projects/ Platenkamp, Tim. The Socialist Community of citizens: An Institutional Design of Republican Socialism. Nieuwegein 2020. (Master Thesis pdf): https://scripties.uba.uva.nl/download?fid=c2736566   Further Shownotes Reddebrek. Socialism, Cooperative and Republican: Bernard Moss. 2016. libcom.org: https://libcom.org/article/socialism-cooperative-and-republican-bernard-moss Market Socialism (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism Nove, Alec. The Economics of Feasible Socialism Revisited. 1991. HarperCollinsAcademic. (pdf): http://digamo.free.fr/nove91.pdf Soviet economic planning (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet-type_economic_planning#Analysis_of_Soviet-type_planning Calculation in-natura (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculation_in_kind Khozraschet (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khozraschet Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslavia Types of socialism (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_socialism Commoning (wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commons Spanish Civil War (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Civil_War Popular Front (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Front_(Spain) Geoff Bailey. Anarchists in the Spanish Civil War. International Socialist Review, Issue 24. 2002. (pdf): https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/geoff-bailey-anarchists-in-the-spanish-civil-war.pdf Estrin, Saul. Yugoslavia: The Case of Self-Managing Market Socialism. Journal of Economic Perspectives, Volume 5, Number 4. 1991. (pdf): https://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdf/10.1257/jep.5.4.187#:~:text=The%20Yugoslavs'%20brand%20of%20market,successful%20until%20the%20late%201970s. Cybernetics (Monoskop): https://monoskop.org/Cybernetics Republicanism (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republicanism Civic Republicanism (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_republicanism Noam Chomsky (Wikipedia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky Council democracy (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_democracy Council Communism- an introduction. 2006. libcom.org: https://libcom.org/article/council-communism-introduction Diemer, Ulli. What is Libertarian Socialism?. 1997. The Red Menace. Volume 2, Number 1 (The Anarchist Library. pdf): https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ulli-diemer-what-is-libertarian-socialism.pdf Rule of law (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law Daniel Loik (Website): https://danielloick.net/ Daniel Loik publications: https://danielloick.net/publikationen/ Menke, Christoph and Loik, Daniel in Dialogue. Law without violence. Manchester 2018: Manchester University Press: https://www.manchesterhive.com/display/9781526105097/9781526105097.00009.xml Bernstein, David E., and Ilya Somin. “The mainstreaming of libertarian Constitutionalism.” Law and Contemporary Problems 77, no. 4 (2014): 43–70.  https://www.jstor.org/stable/24244647 David Laibman (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Laibman Science and Society Journal: https://www.scienceandsociety.com/ Laibman, David. 2020. “Incentives, Optimization, and Democratic Planning: A Socialist Primer”. In Science & Society, Vol. 84, No. 4. New York: Guilford Publications:  https://guilfordjournals.com/doi/10.1521/siso.2020.84.4.510 Laibman, David and Campbell, Al. 2022. "(En)Visioning Socialism IV: Raising the Future in Our Imaginations Before Raising It in Reality". In Science & Society, Vol. 86, No. 2. New York: Guilford Publications:  https://guilfordjournals.com/doi/10.1521/siso.2022.86.2.137 Laibman, David. 2012. “Political Economy after Economics”. London/New York: Routledge: https://www.routledge.com/Political-Economy-After-Economics-Scientific-Method-and-Radical-Imagination/Laibman/p/book/9781138803060 Laibman, David. 2002. "Democratic Coordination: Towards a Working Socialism For the New Century". In: Science & Society, Vol. 66, No. 1. New York: Guilford Publications, 116–129: https://guilfordjournals.com/doi/10.1521/siso.66.1.116.21016 Karl Marx (Monoskop): https://monoskop.org/Karl_Marx Marxian economics (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxian_economics Smith, Adam. Book I: On the Causes of Improvement in the Productive Powers. On Labour, and on the Order According to Which its' Produce is Naturally Distributed Among the Different Ranks of the People. On the Natural and Market Price of Commodities. 1776. London. W. Strahan and T. Cadell.: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/smith-adam/works/wealth-of-nations/book01/ch07.htm Paul Cockshott (Wikipedia): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cockshott Allin Cottel (Wikipedia): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allin_Cottrell Cockshott, P. und A. Cottrell. 2002. "The Relation Between Economic and Political Instances in the Communist Mode of Production". In: Science & Society, Vol. 66, No. 1. New York: Guilford Publications, 50–64: https://guilfordjournals.com/doi/10.1521/siso.66.1.50.21014 Cockshott, P. und A. Cottrell. 1993. Towards a New Socialism. Nottingham: Russell Press. (Book as PDF):  http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/new_socialism.pdf Units of account (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_of_account Fiat money (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_money Perfect competition (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_competition Michal Kalecki (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C5%82_Kalecki Laibman, David. Incentives, Optimization, and Democratic Planning: A Socialist Primer. Science and Society. Volume 84, Issue 4. 2020. New York. Guildford Press.: https://guilfordjournals.com/doi/abs/10.1521/siso.2020.84.4.510 Universal basic services: https://universalbasicservices.org/ Gourevitch, Alex  and Pan, J. C..Socialism Won’t Get Rid of Work. But It Will Allow Us to Work Less Under Better Conditions. 2022. Jacobin Magazine.: https://jacobin.com/2022/10/alex-gourevitch-shared-labor-socialism-postwork-critique Input-output model (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input%E2%80%93output_model Hard Budget Constraints (Encyclopedia): https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/hard-budget-constraints Pat Devine (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Devine Devine, Pat. 1988. Democracy and economic planning: the political economy of a self-governing society. New York: Routledge.: https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/mono/10.4324/9780429033117/democracy-economic-planning-pat-devine Value Form Theory (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value-form Blumenfeld, Jacob. What was socialization? A look back. 2023. Strukturwandel des Eigentums.: https://sfb294-eigentum.de/de/blog/what-was-socialization-a-look-back/ Antonio Gramsci (Monoskop): https://monoskop.org/Antonio_Gramsci   Related Episodes S02E44 |  Evgeny Morozov on discovery beyond competition https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e44-evgeny-morozov-on-discovery-beyond-competition/ S02E38 |  Eva von Redecker zu Bleibefreiheit https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e38-eva-von-redecker-zu-bleibefreiheit-und-demokratischer-planung/ S02E31 | Pat Devine on Negotiated Coordination https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e33-pat-devine-on-negotiated-coordination/ S02E31 | Thomas Swann on Anarchist Cybernetics https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e31-thomas-swann-on-anarchist-cybernetics/  S02E19 | David Laibman on Multilevel Democratic Iterative Coordination https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e19-david-laibman-on-multilevel-democratic-iterative-coordination/ S01 E37  | Eva von Redecker zur Revolution für das Leben https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e37-eva-von-redecker-zur-revolution-fuer-das-leben/ S01E12 | Daniel Loick zu Anarchismus https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e12-daniel-loick-zu-anarchismus/ S1E1 | Benjamin Seibel zu Kybernetik https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e01-benjamin-seibel-zu-kybernetik/   If you like Future Histories, you can help with your support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/join/FutureHistories? 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Tim Platenkamp fuses the socialist calculation debate with republican thought.

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Tim Platenkamp fuses the socialist calculation debate with republican thought.Future Histories International Find all English episodes of Future Histories here: https://futurehistories-international.com/ and subscribe to the Future Histories Internat...
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Tim Platenkamp fuses the socialist calculation debate with republican thought.

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Shownotes Tim Platenkamp

Tim Platenkamp (Website):

https://timplatenkamp.nl/


Platenkamp, Tim. The Constitution of Socialism. Forthcoming:

https://timplatenkamp.nl/research-projects/


Platenkamp, Tim. The Socialist Community of citizens: An Institutional Design of Republican Socialism. Nieuwegein 2020. (Master Thesis pdf):

https://scripties.uba.uva.nl/download?fid=c2736566

 

Further Shownotes

Reddebrek. Socialism, Cooperative and Republican: Bernard Moss. 2016. libcom.org:

https://libcom.org/article/socialism-cooperative-and-republican-bernard-moss


Market Socialism (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism


Nove, Alec. The Economics of Feasible Socialism Revisited. 1991. HarperCollinsAcademic. (pdf):

http://digamo.free.fr/nove91.pdf


Soviet economic planning (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet-type_economic_planning#Analysis_of_Soviet-type_planning


Calculation in-natura (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculation_in_kind


Khozraschet (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khozraschet


Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslavia


Types of socialism (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_socialism


Commoning (wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commons


Spanish Civil War (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Civil_War


Popular Front (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Front_(Spain)


Geoff Bailey. Anarchists in the Spanish Civil War. International Socialist Review, Issue 24. 2002. (pdf):

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/geoff-bailey-anarchists-in-the-spanish-civil-war.pdf


Estrin, Saul. Yugoslavia: The Case of Self-Managing Market Socialism. Journal of Economic Perspectives, Volume 5, Number 4. 1991. (pdf):

https://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdf/10.1257/jep.5.4.187#:~:text=The%20Yugoslavs'%20brand%20of%20market,successful%20until%20the%20late%201970s.


Cybernetics (Monoskop):

https://monoskop.org/Cybernetics


Republicanism (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republicanism


Civic Republicanism (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_republicanism


Noam Chomsky (Wikipedia)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky


Council democracy (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_democracy


Council Communism- an introduction. 2006. libcom.org:

https://libcom.org/article/council-communism-introduction


Diemer, Ulli. What is Libertarian Socialism?. 1997. The Red Menace. Volume 2, Number 1 (The Anarchist Library. pdf):

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ulli-diemer-what-is-libertarian-socialism.pdf


Rule of law (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law


Daniel Loik (Website):

https://danielloick.net/


Daniel Loik publications:

https://danielloick.net/publikationen/


Menke, Christoph and Loik, Daniel in Dialogue. Law without violence. Manchester 2018: Manchester University Press:

https://www.manchesterhive.com/display/9781526105097/9781526105097.00009.xml


Bernstein, David E., and Ilya Somin. “The mainstreaming of libertarian Constitutionalism.” Law and Contemporary Problems 77, no. 4 (2014): 43–70. 

https://www.jstor.org/stable/24244647


David Laibman (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Laibman


Science and Society Journal:

https://www.scienceandsociety.com/


Laibman, David. 2020. “Incentives, Optimization, and Democratic Planning: A Socialist Primer”. In Science & Society, Vol. 84, No. 4. New York: Guilford Publications: 

https://guilfordjournals.com/doi/10.1521/siso.2020.84.4.510


Laibman, David and Campbell, Al. 2022. "(En)Visioning Socialism IV: Raising the Future in Our Imaginations Before Raising It in Reality". In Science & Society, Vol. 86, No. 2. New York: Guilford Publications: 

https://guilfordjournals.com/doi/10.1521/siso.2022.86.2.137


Laibman, David. 2012. “Political Economy after Economics”. London/New York: Routledge:

https://www.routledge.com/Political-Economy-After-Economics-Scientific-Method-and-Radical-Imagination/Laibman/p/book/9781138803060


Laibman, David. 2002. "Democratic Coordination: Towards a Working Socialism For the New Century". In: Science & Society, Vol. 66, No. 1. New York: Guilford Publications, 116–129:

https://guilfordjournals.com/doi/10.1521/siso.66.1.116.21016


Karl Marx (Monoskop):

https://monoskop.org/Karl_Marx


Marxian economics (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxian_economics


Smith, Adam. Book I: On the Causes of Improvement in the Productive Powers. On Labour, and on the Order According to Which its' Produce is Naturally Distributed Among the Different Ranks of the People. On the Natural and Market Price of Commodities. 1776. London. W. Strahan and T. Cadell.:

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/smith-adam/works/wealth-of-nations/book01/ch07.htm


Paul Cockshott (Wikipedia):

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cockshott


Allin Cottel (Wikipedia):

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allin_Cottrell


Cockshott, P. und A. Cottrell. 2002. "The Relation Between Economic and Political Instances in the Communist Mode of Production". In: Science & Society, Vol. 66, No. 1. New York: Guilford Publications, 50–64:

https://guilfordjournals.com/doi/10.1521/siso.66.1.50.21014


Cockshott, P. und A. Cottrell. 1993. Towards a New Socialism. Nottingham: Russell Press. (Book as PDF): 

http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/new_socialism.pdf


Units of account (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_of_account


Fiat money (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_money


Perfect competition (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_competition


Michal Kalecki (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C5%82_Kalecki


Laibman, David. Incentives, Optimization, and Democratic Planning: A Socialist Primer. Science and Society. Volume 84, Issue 4. 2020. New York. Guildford Press.:

https://guilfordjournals.com/doi/abs/10.1521/siso.2020.84.4.510


Universal basic services:

https://universalbasicservices.org/


Gourevitch, Alex  and Pan, J. C..Socialism Won’t Get Rid of Work. But It Will Allow Us to Work Less Under Better Conditions. 2022. Jacobin Magazine.:

https://jacobin.com/2022/10/alex-gourevitch-shared-labor-socialism-postwork-critique


Input-output model (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input%E2%80%93output_model


Hard Budget Constraints (Encyclopedia):

https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/hard-budget-constraints


Pat Devine (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Devine


Devine, Pat. 1988. Democracy and economic planning: the political economy of a self-governing society. New York: Routledge.:

https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/mono/10.4324/9780429033117/democracy-economic-planning-pat-devine


Value Form Theory (Wikipedia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value-form


Blumenfeld, Jacob. What was socialization? A look back. 2023. Strukturwandel des Eigentums.:

https://sfb294-eigentum.de/de/blog/what-was-socialization-a-look-back/


Antonio Gramsci (Monoskop):

https://monoskop.org/Antonio_Gramsci

 

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Keywords

#TimPlatenkamp, #JanGroos, #FutureHistories, #Interview, #Socialism, #SocialistActivism, #SocialistVision, #AchievingSocialism, #Responsibility, #Decentralisation, #PoliticalEconomy, #RepublicanSocialism, #CentralPlanning, #SovietSocialism, #YugoslavSocialism, #DavidLaibman, #Marxism, #CivicRepublicanism, #MarketSocialism, #Cybernetics, #LibertarianSocialism, #DanielLoik, #PostCapitalistSociety, #FirstGenerationSocialism, #FirstStageSocialism, #PlanningDebate, #DemocraticPlanningDebate, #SocialistCalculationDebate, #FutureHistoriesInternational