*this week's episode is in English* Emer Beamer is a social designer and change maker, founder of Designathon.nl Two weeks ago, newspaper Parool called her "Robot Juf" because she uses science to help young children to get to know technology. We talk about the nature of play, computer games, design thinking, the difficulty of changing a school curriculum and more. Next week: Jan Jacobs, founder of SmartHealth.nl