In the third episodeArvind Guptais in conversation with Vivek Vellanki. In thisĀ fun and loadedĀ conversation, Arvind GuptaĀ discusses his own personal journey into education, science teaching, the role of trash and toys in science education, and children's literature. While talking about science education, he says,Ā āIt is a sham, the way we have approached science [education]. Before a child comes to school, the child has done a lot of science.