Maurizio Lazzarato is a sociologist and a philosopher, and a researcher at the French National Centre for Scientific Research (CNRS) and at Pantheon-Sorbonne University (University Paris I). He is also a member of the Collège international de philosophie (CIPh). Lazzarato has been critically thinking and writing about capitalism, debt, neoliberalism, always attentive to questions of subjectivity, communication, and the media. In this episode, we will talk about neoliberalism, populism, fascism, authoritarianism, and how the use of force, inequality and the ecological crisis are connected. In his recent book “Capital hates everyone: Fascism or Revolution,” Lazzarato argues that capital functions in a logic of war, dominating ever more aspects of social life and turning liberal societies increasingly less democratic. 📲 https://mitpress.mit.edu/9781635901382/capital-hates-everyone/ We talk to him about how the climate crisis fits into his analytical framework. Lazzarato’s work brings crucial concepts and perspectives that can help us to think through the relationship between what is possible and what is impossible in face of the climate emergency. The ENGLISH transcript of this episode, can be found here 📲 https://www.iass-potsdam.de/sites/default/files/2022-11/Maurizio%20Lazzarato%20-%20interview%20transcription%20ENGLISH%281%29.pdf GERMAN transcript 📲 https://www.iass-potsdam.de/sites/default/files/2022-11/Interview%20Maurizio%20Lazzarato%20%C3%9Cbersetzung%20DEUTSCH_0.pdf The music is by Mateus Alves 📲www.mateusalves.bandcamp.com/ The voiceover is by Paul Osbourne 📲 https://www.paulosbourne.net/ If you would like to learn more about the Ecopol research group’s work, please visit our page: 📲 https://www.iass-potsdam.de/en/research-group/ecopolitical-transformations You can also follow us on Twitter 📲 twitter.com/DemocracyIass