The penultimate session to negotiate the global plastics treaty ended just a few days ago in Ottawa, Canada. One of the journalists attending was Stephen Leahy, a science and environmental journalist who’s reported on climate and other issues for the past 30 years. Steve has written for dozens of publications including National Geographic, the Guardian, New Scientist and The Atlantic. Anja asked him about his impressions of this fourth meeting of the Intergovernmental Negotiating Committee, the INC4. Hear more in Steve's audio message. You can follow Steve’s reporting via his substack page leahy.substack.com To send a voice message follow the instructions here: https://anjakrieger.com/plastisphere/send-a-voice-message/