The final meeting to negotiate the global plastics treaty is coming up this winter. But if you’ve listened to previous episodes of our series, you know that little progress had been made in the first three INCs. At the negotiations in Uruguay, France, and Kenya, strategic games were played. They held up the process and sabotaged the road to an ambitious and binding treaty. Now, in the run-up to the final round of negotiations in November and December in the city of Busan, in Korea - the INC-5 - we’re taking a closer look at what happened last in Ottawa. And who else could explain the INC-4 better than Magnus Løvold? He’s an expert in international treaties from the Norwegian Academy of International Law, and has attended all the meetings in person. +++If you enjoy this series, please support the production! Go to https://anjakrieger.com/plastisphere/support/ to find out more.+++ In this episode, we are discussing clips from the live-stream of the previous meeting. You’ll get to hear from Jyoti Mathur-Filipp (Executive Secretary of the Negotiating Committee), Luis Vayas Valdivieso (INC Chair), Inger Andersen (Executive Director of UNEP), a representative of the BreakFreeFromPlastic Youth, Janelle Nahmabin (Society of Native Nations), Patrick Umuhoza (representative of Rwanda), and the Representative of Fiji. For more insights on Ottawa, go to the Indisposable Podcast and listen to Jamala Djinn, Policy Advisor for Break Free From Plastic, and Rachel Radvany, Environmental Health Campaigner for the Center for International Environmental Law (CIEL): https://upstreamsolutions.org/podcast/toward-a-global-plastics-treaty